Intervista all’Avv. Pimpini Lecce, sensational decision of GDP: illegitimate "seigniorage" - Interview to 'Mr. Pimpini
Bank of Italy ordered to return the money to a national
A resounding decision of a Justice of the Peace of Lecce ruled that the illegality of "lords" and sentenced the Bank of Italy to return to a citizen of the sum of € 87.00 unlawfully received. The citizen who brought action against the Bank , was assisted by 'Mr. AntonioTanza, dell'Abusbef president, a union against usury, and by the lawyer. Chetino Antonio Pampini that Rev interviewed.
Attorney Pampini, what happened to Lecce?
"The lawyer. Tanza, President dall'Abusdef, and I, we proposed a judicial question, in the interests of a citizen resident in the city of Lecce, in the wake of the prof. Giacinto Auriti , the well known theory of Property popular monetary . More specifically, after observing that the function of issuing Money is absolutely distinct and different from borrowing money and that in the absence of any rule, ownership of the money must be given to members of the collective national interest, we have shown that, to date, the central bank takes possession of unlawfully carrying monetary value cd. seigniorage. In contrast, monetary income should be attributed to the state (understood as organic society composed of all citizens). Previously, in fact, through his effigy on the coinage of metals, the king showed the generality of being the owner. As a result we have asked the Justice of the Peace of Lecce to verify the ownership of the money in the hands of the whole national community, and that the entire money supply in circulation was declared the property of their compenti the European Union, with the effect that the debt does not exist, since it must be, on the contrary, considered public credit of the citizens. On the basis of these requests for investigation, has asked for compensation and reimbursement of the sums which the central bank is appropriate and, following a thorough and apprezzabilissima technical advice, the application as proposed, was accepted and the ECB- Bank of Italy has been ordered to pay in favor of the plaintiff, the sum of €. 87.00, plus interest. "
The central bank will naturally be the opposite, what were the arguments put forward defensive?
"The issuing bank has tried in every way to oppose the application, but what I think should be emphasized that the defense is not used consisted of an opposition in respect of the application of the citizen , as in a series of preliminary exceptions, such as to prevent the process rather than to obtain a decision rejecting the merits of the claim as unfounded. The only argument of substance, as true to nature preliminare, è stato quello di contestare il potere dell’Autorità Giudiziaria di statuire sulla materia in quanto inerente alla sovranità e, come tale, non giustiziabile dinanzi ai Tribunali dello Stato, per cui la domanda avrebbe dovuto essere dichiarata improcedibile.»
E su questo aspetto come si è risolto?
«La risposta può essere fornita su due fronti, entrambi confermano la visione profetica del prof. Auriti, che da oltre 40 anni ribadisce il principio che la proprietà della moneta deve essere attribuita ai cittadini e non può essere di una società per shares at private and even foreign. The assumption could be established against if there had been a rule governing the monetary sovereignty, and if the end user of monetary income could be identified in the state, through the various members of the collective nation. Both of these profiles were negative.
'It was, however, necessary to carry out checks to ascertain if the monetary income was attributed to citizens in one of two ways: one direct and one indirect. The first (direct) could be implemented through the allocation of material per capita income, the same way, even if a positive number and the payment of taxes that each citizen is obliged to pay to the Treasury, and with the recognition of a social income. The second (assignment) or indirectly via the internal forms of allocation of the central bank. Was to ascertain whether the cd. seigniorage income returned equally to the benefit of individuals because corporate profit was attributed to the State and then to the institutions to which of course also attended by various members of the national community. Well, even if to us, close to the school of prof. Auriti, this was known for some time, it emerged that the Bank of Italy is a company whose shares are broken down by 95% in favor of private parties, while only 5% belong to the state through the INPS. Therefore even indirectly the citizen had been granted.
"Accordingly," the lawyer continued. Vine leaves, "I want to emphasize that the recent debate on the governor Antonio Fazio and Bank of Italy has confirmed what we have just expressed. Although the mass media you are interested in the controversy between the Government and the Governor the same way as an argument to be soap opera, reality is not, or rather not so much, that the term of office of the governor, but the property del capitale sociale della banca centrale. E’ ovvio che lo stato non può decidere né controllare nulla se non è proprietario del capitale sociale dell’istituto di emissione, il quale, infischiandosene e
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sbeffeggiando il potere politico, continua a svolgere le sue funzioni di appropriazione indebita della moneta impoverendo, stato e collettività.
«Questo sistema, anche grazie the revolutionary decision of Justice of the Peace of Lecce, is destined to end, so that, at least on this occasion, there was overlap between judicial decision and the will of the Legislature, although it currently only de jure seasoning. "
And the other aspect of the challenge to the central bank on all'improcedibilità because inherent in the prerogative of the state?
"It would be just what I said earlier. However, to clarify, is limited to pose the following question: "how do you support che la sovranità monetaria costituisce prerogativa dello stato se, in realtà, è prerogativa dell’istituto di emissione?” Lo stato non solo nulla conosce, ma neanche dispone, posto che l’autonomia della BCE – ora, e prima della sola banca d’Italia – consente di affermare che tra le prerogative statali non vi è la sovranità monetaria, che, pur in assenza di alcuna norma, è di fatto esercitata dal predetto soggetto privato. Quindi, l’assunto è smentito in radice, senza considerare – poi – che appare sinceramente sorprendente e singolare ritenere che l’Autorità Giudiziaria italiana non possa assumere decisione in relazione ad un bene materiale (moneta) and in reference to a matter that concerns a company (Bank of Italy). "
What are the effects of the decision?
"As I said, in theory, every citizen, based on the findings of that decision could take legal action against the Bank of Italy, in his capacity as national originators of the ECB for the recovery of the coercive sum of €. 87.00 more than accessories. However, I would advise you to await the outcome of the court of cassation, in what is certain to be proposed at the appeal of legitimacy, being too important interests at stake and the ability to subdue David without Goliath battle, but simply conditioning the "battleground."
"The hope is that, in the course, you actually come to the cessation of purpose, meaning to purge private parties such as members of the Bank of Italy SpA, have illegally benefited incredibly high sums of money determined in respect of the difference between the cost of printing for the printing of money (absolutely ridiculous) and the nominal value thereof. These, of course, will be substitute for the state to ensure that the end user of monetary income is the individual citizen, because only then the dispute can be said to be defined.
"I'm sure he remembered the many who know the theory prof. Auriti, the admirable example of the desert island. If, in fact, say the governor on a desert island with the ability to print money in unlimited amounts, certainly not create any monetary value for the decisive and indisputable fact that the main material is missing: the man. Only man, through the circulation of money, it creates its value, so it is absolutely unacceptable that this advantage will turn into profit for the issuing bank and then to the entire banking system that, by the possession of money amounting to, for example, creates money equal to 10, with delivery of the instrument credit, 10,000. If political power and this force will be able to bring back the central bank to act as typography, reserving the ownership of the money to the State - organic society - the benefit of all and will be for everyone. Remains only to dial the previous, although not insignificant. "
actually seems to finally see the established principles of prof. Auriti.
"I have always maintained, and this prof. Auriti I have always acknowledged, that victory there was the time when the idea of \u200b\u200b"Property of the People's money" has been manifested. The time for its implementation, although it is common wish is as short as possible, it does not matter too much and not even in truth belongs to us, what matters most is having had the chance to meet and honor of being next to the prof. Auriti. Do not forget the numerous tangible and has had to suffer persecution for ideas and, above all, for the courage that took nell'esternale. Remember too that, in the aftermath dell'esposto store for "wear and tear, fraud and embezzlement" against the then governor of the Bank of Italy ( Ciampi !!!), the banking system has attacked the prof. Auriti. After it was the turn of the judiciary that cue by the Bank of Italy, on the occasion of the exercise of Simec Guardiagrele, felt right to try a man for having done a scientific experiment, free of any potentially harmful, This merely serves to ensure the freedom of contract and to return to the community and a good income to others, without a title and power, they were appropriate. "
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